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WW2

It mentions that passenger service was added in 1938, but this is placed after it says the airport was established during WWII. I presume it means either 1948 or 1958, so whoever actually knows should check into this. Peregrine981 16:04, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

The article didn't explicitly say it was established during WWII, but yes, it was definitely unclear. Sorted that part now, primarily based upon [1].

Protactin 01:33, 18 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

To be done

The Prestwick article has more info on the freight side + maintenance facilities than this article! Need to move/copy things over.
Could do with a photo, which I could probably provide at some point.
I'm not sure if the list of airlines is up-to-date. Globespan don't seem to be there anymore? I'll have to check on that. -- Chris 18:33, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
What about some more info on Prestwicks military role during WWII.
Why is Prestwick described as the third busiest aiport in Scotland when it has some 700,000 pax per annum less than Aberdeen? At current growth rate, Aberdeen aiport will pass 3million pax sometime late spring/early summer 2006.

G8

When Bush flew in, the article says that the "US military" were involved in security at the airport....this seems unlikely, does anyone have any evidence ? It is likely that US secret service people were there as they accompany Bush everywhere ( the US SS is the US equivalent of the Met Police Royalty/Diplomatic protection squad ).

Quite correct, Strathclyde Police were in charge of the security operation and were assissted by officers drafted in from other forces. I'm quite sure the US Secret Service were on hand to protect the US President, as they always are, but I sincerely doubt, and have seen no evidence to suggest, they were involved in airport perimeter security. --Ayrshire--77 11:08, 4 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Traffic on the A79 continued uninterrupted while the delegates' aircraft arrived, although stopping to observe was prohibited. The A77 remained open for all aircraft except Air Force One. Of the two VC-25As that arrived, it was obvious that AF1 was the second as traffic was stopped only after the first touched down. On an observational note, it was strangely silent while AF1 approached, whether that was because of the reduced traffic noise or a sudden silence descending on the crowd I don't know. After the first VC-25A touched down though, you could see police motorcyclists speeding along the A77 just before the traffic flow stopped. --Ayrshire--77 07:52, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Prestwick Airport"

Anyone object to me adding that most Scottish people drop the "Glasgow" in the name and just call it "Prestwick (airport)"?

Yes, because I'm just doing it. I'm surprised it isn't in there already. ----

Me, too. --Kilo-Lima 19:21, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I always thought the 'Glasgow Prestwick' part seemed a bit stupid Douglasnicol 20:39, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Curious that nobody mentioned in the main article the "catchphrase" on the front of the building that had so many up in arms, as it is from a tv show ("Rab C. Nesbitt") based in Glasgow, in Lanarkshire, (I used to deliver mail to Elaine C. Smith's address MANY years ago, as a casual postie), whereas the airport is about thirty miles from the city, in AYRSHIRE.82.6.1.85 (talk) 23:13, 24 March 2010 (UTC) Lance Tyrell[reply]

Hi there, I should point out the airport primarily serves Glasgow and many cities airports are located out with the actual city. London Luton is 35 miles outside London. Simply... the airport is primarily designed for, targeted to and serves Glasgow's flight market, location of the airport does not make a difference. G.R. Allison (talk) 23:18, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

London Luton was renamed from plain old Luton Airport, like London Stanstead was, because using the name of a city that is geographically important helps sell tickets. Glasgow is more than 30 miles and two counties north of Prestwick. Prestwick airport was never designed or targeted with a Glaswegian flight market in mind, it was built by the MOD as a training base in that location as it traditionally has very mild weather, enabling training to take place uninterrupted year round — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.134.253 (talk) 00:17, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Airbus A380

The airport is ready to handle the Airbus A380. Is this true? (I hope so!) --Kilo-Lima 19:21, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The terminal might need work, but I would imagine that the runway is perfectly capable of taking it. I've got to admit that I'm peeved at the idiots that protest the A-380, saying that airports need to be upgraded. This is mostly from the USA, but airports needed upgraded for the 747. If we all stuck to that attitude we would still be taking 3-4 day flights to Australia in Handley Page Heracles. Douglasnicol 20:27, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The A380 was pitched so that current airports that can handle the 747-400 and An-124 can deal with it. Terminal facilities and layout are a different matter but double decker stair systems have been touted for remote stand embark/disembarkation of pax. If this sort of system was used then in theory, Prestwick, Glasgow Int & Edinburgh could all handle occasional A380 movmements as all have had 747-400, AN-124 & C5 Galaxy visitors.

Route launches

Is this section really necessary? There is a list of destinations and the carriers serving them, but I wouldn't have thought the actual date that they started up really merits so much attention. Perhaps a "Former destinations" section for those no longer served instead of this, if either? --Ayrshire--77 13:25, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, it's not necessary. I've done a bit of clean up on the article, following some recent edits. Thanks/wangi 14:45, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ryanair promotion

Ive removed some of the edits from the 28th, prior to my name. It contains a rather unwarranted swipe at Easyjet for some reason and some Ryanair info which seems little more than promotional material. This is meant to be a neutral page, so if anyone disagrees, let me know. Douglasnicol 14:53, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WOuld this be a notable event

[2] Apparently, USA used the airport to transit bombs heading to Mind East

I suppose so, but there's no solid proof either way like photos of the aircraft cargo bays. It's certainly newsworthy. Douglasnicol 17:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is newsworthy only because of the current situation in the Middle East and the clear fact that we know what the munitions are being used for. Other than that, it would be very naive indeed to think that during peace time freighters carrying missile shipments don't stop at Prestwick for refuelling. Its an ideal transit airport for military and civilian freight aircraft, and several of the regular freight carriers are frequently sub-contracted by the US Government - Kalitta Air and Evergreen International (who sometimes use US Air Force callsigns) to name two. Though today, it was two Atlas Air 747s transitting between San Antonio, TX and Tel Aviv. Even the Isreali Air Force, as recent as last week, use the airport on a fairly regular basis. I'm really unconvinced that it's a one-off, it's only been flagged because of the current situation.

A far more noteworthy topic for the article, in my opinion, would be the airport's role in CIA rendition flights, which also has not been mentioned so far. --Ayrshire--77 15:35, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jack McConnell caption

I notice that the caption of the photo of Jack McConnell meeting George Bush has been modified to state that McConnell is the former First Minister. Is this something we want to do? Granted, he is now the former First Minister, but he was the First Minister when the photo was taken, and was meeting Bush because of that office; not just as a former First Minister as the current caption might imply. Can anyone perhaps see a middle way, other than something really long-winded like "Jack McConnell, who was First Minister then but isn't now"? --Scott Wilson 19:49, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What genius came up with the slogan "Pure DEAD brilliant"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.170.138.2 (talk) 01:20, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Easyatlantic?

Are they a new start up airline from Easyjet? Haven't heard anything about them

82.11.157.102 (talk) 18:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed as unsourced nonsense. SempreVolando (talk) 15:54, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Polar Air

Polar Air no longer have a hangar at Prestwick airport. It was taken over in some way by Atlas Air who then closed the hangar. I don't know details which is why I'm not editing it myself. --Rysin3 (talk) 15:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The role of Prestwick Airport in supporting the US Navy's submarine facility in Holy Loch

The United States Navy's "FBM Refit Site One", the home base of Submarine Squadron 14 in Holy Loch, Scotland received a considerable amount of support from Prestwick Airport. This squadron of Polaris and later Poseidon Fleet Ballistic Missile (FBM) submarines each had two crews, a Blue Crew and a Gold Crew. While the submarines were ostensibly home-ported at the Naval Submarine Base New London , the submarines themselves rarely ever got close, but crews served and trained there while their counterparts were at the Holy Loch or out on patrol. A crew would fly from the US into Prestwick Airport, be transported to the Holy Loch where it would relieve the crew just returning from a patrol, who would fly out of Prestwick about three days later. This would happen three or four times a month for as long as the facility was operational (from 1961 to 1992.)

Also, while most supplies that could not be obtained locally were transported from the US to the Holy Loch via periodic visits from T-AK Cargo Ships of the Military Sealift Command, high priority items were flown into Prestwick for transport to the Holy Loch.

If people think this would be a worthwhile contribution to this article, I'd be pleased to contribute. TCav (talk) 02:33, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Prestwick Airport" (bis)

The official airport name is Prestwick, not Glasgow-Prestwick which is more a brand used by the airport operator. Does someone object renaming the article into "Prestwick Airport"? Slasher-fun (talk) 10:27, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes --NorthernCounties (talk) 10:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Would you mind explaining then? Slasher-fun (talk) 10:52, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No sarcasm... you know why. No to being pointy. Oui? --NorthernCounties (talk) 11:03, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well... Same thing with the other article, you're being narrow-minded, I stop trying to argue, and suggest you to read the guidelines and the discussions in the project page. Slasher-fun (talk) 11:12, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can I take this opportunity to remind you of not only WP:Pointy, but also Wikipedia:NPA and Wikipedia:Avoid personal remarks. Please don't talk about narrow-mindedness when you breach these. Finally, I'll also point you to this WP:PRIOR --NorthernCounties (talk) 11:23, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I object to the proposed name change. Use the common name which is Glasgow Prestwick. Bjmullan (talk) 13:04, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with posters that the article title should remain as "Glasgow Prestwick Airport", although it is commonly referred to as "Prestwick Airport". This is in keeping with other similar pages - for example, see the page titled London Stansted Airport which then goes on to reference simply "Stansted" or "Stansted Airport" throughout the remaining text of the article. Endeleus (talk) 16:25, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gaelic Name

Removed the Gaelic translation of the airport name as this is not authentic. Prestwick is not a Gaelic speaking area, and there is no evidence of The airport ever having been referred to by a Gaelic name. Even on the Wikipedia Scottish Gaelic page there are two maps, both of which show Ayrshire as outside any Gaelic speaking areas. Endeleus (talk) 03:25, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also there is no reference to a Gaelic name for the airport on the official website http://www.glasgowprestwick.com/about-the-airport/ Endeleus (talk) 16:17, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New link https://www.glasgowprestwick.com/corporate/about-us/who-we-are/ and the airport still has no Gaelic references or branding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:3031:2E0:315:3872:3E97:7A98:AD80 (talk) 13:04, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Olympic terror flights will divert to Scotland"

At present, flights coming to the UK from the west that are considered at risk of terrorist attack are diverted to Prestwick, while those travelling from the east are diverted to Stansted. However, in the build-up to the Olympics, and as long as the Games are on, Stansted will not be used.

--Mais oui! (talk) 05:58, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Scaremongering.. The Olympics are over, and you will probably find a reciprocal plan is in place for the 2014 Commonwealth games in Glasgow — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.134.253 (talk) 00:31, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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could pan am 160 be added to the incidents and accidents page?

whilst the flight never actually made it to prestwick it was due for a stopover here but didn’t make it. could it be added?

Pan Am Flight 160 Rocketproppeled (talk) 20:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to add it, then please keep the text brief on the Prestwick page.Pmbma (talk) 21:37, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ok added! have a look at it to see if it’s ok Rocketproppeled (talk) 09:15, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Accidents and incidents sometime in 2017-2020 period

Hello! i noticed on the way back machine for this page that 3 incidents and accidents were removed around 2017-2020 time period. these were

During the 1989 Prestwick Air show, a Hawker Sea Fury had to be ditched in the sea as the port landing gear was stuck. The pilot parachuted to safety.

On 28 April 1958 a British European Airways Vickers Viscount crashed just outside Ayr on a repositioning flight from London after the pilot misread the altimeter by 10,000 feet (3,000 m). The aircraft skidded across the ground before catching fire. All 5 crew survived.

The first serious air accident at Prestwick was on 28 August 1944, a Douglas DC-4, on a transatlantic flight overshot the runway and crashed into houses at Hillside Avenue, Glenburn. 26 people were killed, 21 passengers and crew and 5 civilians on the ground. The crash destroyed four houses in Hillside Avenue and damaged several others. Rocketproppeled (talk) 08:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you believe these should be re-added, then go ahead and do so, but make sure you add suitable references. The 3 things you mentioned sound worthy of inclusion. However there is a tendency amongst some editors to add even the most minor events (eg aircraft had a burst tyre while landing but nobody hurt) and other editors try to delete these minor events due to being non-notable. The accidents+incidents section should not normally dominate a wikipage about an airport. It's ultimately a judgment thing - add what is long term notable while trying to delete the trivial. Pmbma (talk) 09:08, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not convinced that the first one in particular is truly notable, and the second didn't happen at Prestwick itself. But the third definitely sounds worthy of a mention, provided you have a reference.

As to deciding whether or not to add a recent incident, one good test is to ask yourself whether it will still appear relevant to the article in 10 or 20 years time. Rosbif73 (talk) 09:54, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ok so that’s fine the last one “crash into houses from dc4” is already there. the viscount one could be notable but i posted it here for other peoples input Rocketproppeled (talk) 21:12, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

addition of info to the history section

hello its me again. i had an edit removed about the scrapping of 2 norwegian long haul 787s from the history section under “irrelevant to this article” im no expert but i believe when it says “history” it doesn’t mean “only the governments things and nothing else” i want others opinions because i also believe that an addition of how if was used for cop 26 and about the covid pandemic (how it was a storage site for things like virgin atlantic or covid tests and PPE being routed through) obviously up to your opinions and i don’t want to add unnecessary information but there’s my stance

TL;DR Need opinion on adding extra information in the history section Rocketproppeled (talk) 18:55, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]