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After 1594, Shakespeare's plays were performed only by the Lord Chamberlain's Men, a company owned by a group of players, including Shakespeare, that soon became the leading playing company in London
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After 1594, Shakespeare's plays were performed at The Theatre, in Shoreditch, only by the Lord Chamberlain's Men, a company owned by a group of players, including Shakespeare, that soon became the leading playing company in London
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Shakespeare is a name associated with William, arguably the best to ever do it in multiple realms. Several writers of the same era, and previous ones, with a less known body of work, only have 1 name on their articles. The redirect is already his, no (disambiguation). I understand both reasons against and in support, just want to test the waters to see where we stand on this. It seems a reasonable move:
Support move to Shakespeare, the article subject is consistently refered to as such-and was during his time.
Oppose - Assuming I’ve correctly understood the proposal as; rename the “William Shakespeare” article as “Shakespeare”. His name was William Shakespeare, and if you’re thinking about ease for readers, “Shakespeare” already redirects here, as you say. You suggest there are other authors whose pages follow the proposed approach. Could you give a couple of examples? That might help me better understand your thinking. KJP1 (talk) 16:23, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, some Ancient Greeks came to mind. But the proposer suggests there are writers broadly contemporary to Shakespeare where this approach is followed. KJP1 (talk) 17:19, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Per WP:MONONYM: "Using the last name as the page title for a person, when the first name is also known and used, is discouraged, even if that name would be unambiguous, and even if it consists of more than one word. Unambiguous last names are usually redirects: for example, Ludwig van Beethoven is the title of an article, while Van Beethoven and Beethoven redirect to that article."Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:02, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Now there’s a name to conjure with. Bradley used to be the bible when I was at school, and I’ve still got a copy of Shakespearean Tragedy on my shelves. But I don’t think he’s much rated now? As to what the IP is suggesting, I’m as clueless as you. KJP1 (talk) 16:30, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, there's a poem, isn't there, involving famous writers taking exams upon their own works, and containing the lines:
Under "Legacy": "Shakespeare remains the world's best-selling playwright, with sales of his plays and poetry believed to have achieved in excess of four billion copies in the almost 400 years since his death." We are considerably beyond the 400 year mark. 47.221.100.154 (talk) 23:04, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The line is a quote from Guinness World Records (2014 edition), and is correct in that sense. You'll need to get a more recent edition of Guinness, quoting the appropriate entry to correct this. Mediatech492 (talk) 00:12, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If sales of Shakespeare's plays and poetry were in excess of four billion copies ten years ago, they are still in excess of four billion copies. The number of sales cannot fall. The 2014 Guiness World Records source would still support the updated sentence. It's just a technicality. 47.221.100.154 (talk) 21:33, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The "four billion copies" is not the fact at issue here. The fact at issue is the "almost 400 years"., which is correct if you are quoting the 2014 issue of Guinness (which it is). As I stated above, a more recent issue of Guinness (2016 or later) will have the updated factoid (more than 400 years). Yes, it is a technicality, but an encyclopedia is all about the technicalities. Mediatech492 (talk) 22:45, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see there's been an unsourced edit to the lead to make Shakespeare "one of" the most influential writers in English. Such edits have been controversial in the past. I'm just mentioning it and don't intend to revert. AndyJones (talk) 13:44, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have reverted it. It is surely unarguable to state that WS was “arguably” the most influential writer in English ever. KJP1 (talk) 15:20, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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